UPDATE – We have almost 100 responses in the first day. Divisions 1, 2, and 3 are responding more than Div 4 and 5. We are getting a fair mix of handicaps. D Flight members are responding well under average. A, B and C flights are fairly equally split. Please respond.
All course have been played by most of our members. Now we need your help to evaluate the 2017 courses.
The link below will take you to a Survey Form for 2017 Courses. We are looking for some information from you as a member. Then we ask you to rate the 2017 courses. Next we want your ideas for possible new courses for 2018.
Most questions require only a simple click. Keep a course, or drop it because Too Hard, Too Far, Cost, Maintenance or Design. Don’t like a course? Click on the most important reason to drop it.
UPDATE – Survey requires a response (Keep or Drop) for all current courses. If you don’t have any opinion on a course, please vote to KEEP it (no reason to drop). If you have chosen NOT to play a course (cost, location, difficulty, et al) then please vote to DROP it for that reason. This way we understand that this course has a problem for you.
We have several courses that have been suggested as additions. What do you think?
I past surveys, we know that most courses are keepers. Negative responses can help us in discussions with the courses.
The survey will be open for about 1 week, or until we get a significant response. Results will be published in the website in October.
CLICK HERE to start 2017 Course Survey.
Gary
In past surveys when we allowed “no opinion” we got many fewer responses to courses. And with courses for dropping we got few responses, and virtually no reasons why.
I do agree that “forcing” a Keep or Drop decision for a course you don’t play may
feel uncomfortable. However, we know that some members don’t play courses because they are “too far”, or “too hard”, or not “fun” for them. Essentially they are “voting” but we don’t have the benefit of their input. This gives them the opportunity to give the Tournament Committee their input.
If they truly in doubt, then a Keep, vote is easy, because most of our courses are “keepers”.
Finally, the survey is really another “tool” for the Tournament Committee. Your Division VP is a living, breathing survey. They know how their Division feels about specific courses. We also have attendance information and more to help in the final selection. We DO NOT select courses based only on the survey. Rather we use the survey to help us understand members’ needs across all Divisions and to make sure we are getting more than just a few members’ ideas.
Please revisit the survey and complete it. If you don’t know anything about a course, KEEP it. But if you have chosen not to play a course, please tell us why with a DROP vote.
Roy
Yes golf is a game of personal integrity. We keep our own scores and call penalties on ourselves. The “Rules” are there to provide uniformity and fair play.
Unfortunately there are so many rules that are so complicated. Further, local clubs, Metro Seniors, and many others modify the rules to meet their needs.
One way to fix rules violations is to change the rules to adapt. USGA is doing that now. We have made changes (example – no longer have to keep playing for scores over 9 per hole).
Truly, if most of our members are not following our rules, then we probably need to change the rules. The key questions – What rules are being violated? How often? What does it affect?
One thought – if someone is really doing something that trims say 5 strokes from their game, they eventually are cheating themselves. After a few rounds, their handicap goes down as much as their trims. Even if they misreport 5 strokes in a round, they don’t know if they will “win”. Others could play better, or simply be cheating more. If they make it to the Championships, they will have a low handicap and will be less able to “cheat”.
OTHERS – Do you see regular, serious violations of our rules? Which violations are most serious to the integrity and fairness of our league? Why does the foursome allow the rules violations?
Dave, one or two strokes in a round can take away another players chance to be in the top 5. Everyone likes to win a few bucks and the recognition by being in the top 5! The board should be just as aggressive in encouraging any member on the course to not be timid in enforcing league rules as we were with the slow play issue.
Pace of play and league rules are both explained in the membership directory. Why did you address pace of play so strongly? I believe fair play is equally or even more critical.
I find your explanation that cheating only hurts the cheater by lowering his handicap interesting, maybe laughable. With that logic, why have rules at all.
On the course I have seen, trying to take line of flight on out of bounds shot, moving ball multiple feet to avoid downward lie, bumping ball to avoid tree, stroke shaving, not putting out. Quite a list.
As a league we simply need to encourage all members realize they are officials on the course.